Posts by All for show

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Is All The Bad Publicity About The Watchtower Pedophile Lawsuits Causing Contributions To Nose Dive Worldwide?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.

the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.

and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.

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I have been noticeable out to my family so they have tried to stop their Jw negativity talk in front of me. While i was PIMI, all the talk from our family, very large extended, was negative. Back in 2014, my dad and a few uncles/cousins, had already quit donating for years.

Why? They were pissed off at the hypocritical stand of being told to live simply while the WT kept growing and investing in their empire. Emails went around highlighting the legal battles and the real estate sold. When the begging for money broadcast came out, these same men were filled with glee. Odd right? They are PIMI, yet, feel they have shown their loyalty over the years and think this 'new generation' of GB are apostates. Most the time they go to meeting to criticize the elders or the WT viewpoint. yet, they believe at the core the doctrine its truth.

Mind boggling it certainly is. I feel from my families view years ago when they were so open and borderline apostates themselves yet not even knowing it, many may be so close to breaking the chains...its just going to take something big or even small...but something will snap for these "thinking class" JWS.

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"Inactive" non Attenders, how much power do the JW's have over YOU ?

by Phizzy in

i was thinking about this because of the constant reminders we get in posts that we inactive non attenders have to be careful what we say to jw's, and what we do that they may learn about etc, if we don't wish to be before a j.c. the power they have is limited by what we give them.

now, i do not wish to be declared df'd of da'd, it would kill my old mum i think.. but i refuse to live my life looking over my shoulder, that, in my opinion, is giving them too much power.. i openly vote, i openly donate blood, i enjoy the odd cigar etc etc.. how much power do you allow them to have over you ?.

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I feel like they still hold a lot of power. Even though I'm out and inactive - faded-- I can't live my life openly, I'm dreading what my kids repeat and how it will expose me. So, while I don't conform and follow or believe their bull shit, I am silenced in order to not pay a heavy price.

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The Congregational Make Up Research Project: WTB&TS wants to know you.

by oppostate in

we have a bethel speaker on the english side.

they're pretty regular up here since it's only three and a half hours drive from nyc.. but this is a special kind of visit.. it turns out he's involved in doing a special research project and the christian congregation of jw's wants to know us better.. in order for the broadcasting to address issues more meaningful for families, they want to know the demographic make up of the congregations.. he spoke with the secretary about young single publishers and couples 20-35 y.o.

how are they employed.

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What are they going to do, transition to some kind of youth out reach? None of this info changes anything, the people up top don't live in the real world and are so out of touch. Any hope of keeping the young needs some major weekly structure changes.

As in, more fun and more love. I don't see that happening. Do any of you?

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people magazine- prince as a JW

by All for show in

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dunno if anyone saw this yet.

the comments are full of jw apologists.

http://www.people.com/article/prince-jehovahs-witness-conversion-history.

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Dunno if anyone saw this yet. The comments are full of JW apologists.

http://www.people.com/article/prince-jehovahs-witness-conversion-history

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2016 Memorial Done & Dusted

by steve2 in

well on this side of the planet, the southern hemisphere/ new zealand, the 2016 memorial service in local kingdom halls will be over for another year.

another great big anticlimax.

some family and relatives will have gone - but unless i ask my sister, i generally have no idea about attendance and partaker numbers.

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Memorial attendance was down huge, between 43-50 was the final I heard from dad. Lots of beards. Everyone looked beat down, over weight. It's sad.

So glad I'm never going again. I'm done. The talk was all about not partaking and how this isn't just a once a year thing to gain the gift. Blah blah...spent time outside letting kids play, say a one year old getting spanked. Made me sick. I went over and told the dad, I regret spanking my littles over a meeting. They're just kids let them be.

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Those of us going to memorial

by All for show in

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how are you feeling?.

we weren't going... but a confrontation with family blew things up.

we decided we are going- because we are planning on moving and this is the last jw thing.

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How are you feeling?

We weren't going... but a confrontation with family blew things up. We decided we are going- because we are planning on moving and this is the last JW thing. I am SICK, sick, sick over setting foot in the KH and seeing all those people. Not all are bad, but we haven't been in over a year, so they are bound to be curious and want info just to gossip later.

Husband and I are figuring out our approach. Get in right before it starts, act happy and wonderful, leave ASAP. Act like all is fine and reveal nothing. Except-- hubs is a nice guy and can easily get caught in conversation, so I am trying to prep him to not get cornered.

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Urging More Lurkers To Sign Up

by freemindfade in

i have seen a lot of new posters intro stories on here, also updates from those who have been around for a while.

i just want to take 1 post to beg those reading to speak up.

it was a big turning point for me and one of the best decisions i made.

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I was terrified, to sign up, like I had crossed an unforgivable line with Jehovah. What if i was wrong? My armpits were sweating... I had dry mouth... everything. Once I posted and had pages of responses, more concern and interest shown than I had in decades at a Kingdom Hall.

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Life After Disassociation (or really leaving by any means)

by dubstepped in

i just wanted to take a minute to encourage any that are leaving that the world outside isn't as scary as it was made out to be.

my wife and i officially da'd at the beginning of last september.

i've battled social anxiety, depression, etc.

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I have followed most your posts. I'm so glad you both have made a new way and are doing well. I hope to oneday be as free as you both.

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Actively Fading and The Memorial

by All for show in

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friends

those of you fading- with the memorial approaching are you going to appease family?

not going and making up an excuse?

acting like your going but not really?.

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Those of you fading- With the memorial approaching are you going to appease family? Not going and making up an excuse? Acting like your going but not really?

The husband and I are trying to decide which route to take. We will be out of town most likely, lie and say we went? Say we didn't. We aren't too sure whats the best action for us to take...curious what you all are doing.

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Saturday Let the Games Begin

by Poztate in

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the start of a new memorial season is upon us.

saturday is the day for the start of the invites to look but not touch the bread and wine.

the "observer class" is a belief unique to jehovah's witnesses.. along with the invite to the masses a special effort is being made this year by the elders to invite all the df's, da's and faders.. along with the invite a copy of the rtj will be left with them.. naturally we will still be treated as pariah's if we do attend but it is the thought that counts.. i am of the "fader class" as i don't wish to rock the boat with my wife and extended family.

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I think I am on the radar. We have gotten a couple calls from an elder, but have since blocked numbers and don't know if we have missed calls or texts. They usually correspond pathetically via text. We had a service group stop by and I hid in the house.

Thanks for the warning, tomorrow i will make sure we are not playing outside with the kids! I have a hard time faking things- I would not accept a RTJ booklet and actually would tell them it was offensive and never left him. The memorial, I am definitely not going.